Stefan Brunner has made a personal record by Los Incorformistas, 9a (8c+) in Rodellar. It was set up in 2008 as an 9a+ but Dani Andrada down graded to 9a commenting „8c+/9a“ and so did Daniel Jung with the second repeat. During the last 18 months it has had at least 10 repeates out of which Ramonet suggest 8c+.