Ramón Julián Puigblanqué has repeated Definición de resistencia demócrata which he apparentely thought was pretty soft as he suggests down grading to 9a. In any case, he says: „9a or 9a+ will be confirmed in the future… pure power endurance“. Ramonet is #4 in the world ranking but he would have been #3 if he´d have chosen to register the route as 9a+.